Oh for FUCK'S SAKE! What is with these people? Doesn't this stupid, STUPID woman know what she is doing to her future health by having so many babies? Even breeding animals are retired before popping out 18.
The worst part of that article? The part where they talked about the boys swapping their traditional chores with the girls' traditional chores. Again. FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
Geez WT, in order to capture the whole clan in your updated poster you'll have to get a roof shot of them standing in the Dependable Renegade parking lot!
I knew a family of 18. None of the 18 had large families. Most of them had 2 or 3 kids only 1 had 4 kids. When all the children completed HS the mother gave the house to the kids and moved into a 1 bedroom apt.
None of the 18 children had more than 4 children....this big family thing just did not carryover.
I knew a fella had 24 kids (two wives). The first had 19, and yup, her uterus plumb old fell out after the 19th. Ah b'leev it wuz hangin' down around her knees from all that unwarranted exercise. He married the second wife because, don'tchaknow, it's just too much to expect a MAY-UN to deal with his football team of sprog.
He fathered five on the second and then she developed really bad asthma and he was never allowed near her bed again (smart wench). Regrettably, one of his kids had nine of her own before her old man popped off from the stress of trying to figure out if he could keep them all fed and clothed. The other 23 opted for between 0 and four sprog each, mostly in the 0 or 1 column, actually.
Someone (a journalist? Some professional writer-wallah) wrote an excellent book, or maybe it was just a long article, about the joys of being one of a football team's worth of sprog. It was enough to make one feel like ripping out one's reproductive bits and tying them off with rusty barbed wire.
I hate the fact that these yahoos are on Yahoo. Procreation as grist for the celebrity mill is disgusting. Shame on the Discovery folks for propagating this appalling spectacle.
Why are those poor girls forced to mimic their mother's hideous-ass hairdo? Someone should tell them there's a reason why no one else in the world does their hair that way.
I just think it's repulsive. Why keep having them? And, sorry, no: "because we can!" is NOT a valid answer. Gluttony, sheer gluttony. I hope all the kids turn away from that 'faith' and do better and create small, manageable families IF they even want one! And why they are on Discovery is a mystery to me...there's NOTHING left to be discovered on her body...except a brain, which is obviously in hiding for its safety (and so the kids don't NOM on it!)
Elspeth
I feel bad for the at least one (more like two) gay kids in that household. (You figure conservative estimates are one in ten in America.) Bad enough to have fundi's for parents and grandparents (I do so I totally understand) but to have that many brainwashed brothers and sisters. Shiiiiit
and
I think they should do their Christian duty and give their kids to couples who have tried for years to conceive a child who for whatever fucked up reason don’t qualify for adoption.
Lastly, the hell people have to go through to adopt children who are already here and these dipshits can just pop them out one after the other.
Don't you know, there using God for birth control...
The worst thing is, they're relying on handouts. They're now some kind of right wing celebrities for having so many kids. I saw them on the Today show this AM and they were (of course) getting all kinds of gifts.
I'd like to see some kind of long term followup on the kids. What can it be like to have so little time with your parents? It's like they're born into fundie boot camp. Heck, I think there's enough of them to be considered a cult.
The all have names beginning with "J", each gender used to all have the same outfits, same scary hairdo's. I've heard of women who really enjoy the feeling of being pregnant. It's either that or she's been lobotomized by her "faith".
I taught Kindergarten at a Catholic school for about 5 years. 2 of my students (from separate years) were brothers from the "Big Family" of the parish. (Mom was of the mind that if the Lord kept giving kids to her, she was gonna keep poppin em out).
Anyway, they were good kids. Very nice, respectable and dependable. Hard workers, all of them.
One month, I gave one of the brothers (John or James, I forget what year it was) the "Good Citizenship" of the month award.
The next day, he came to me, very excited about the special treat he got at home for his award:
"I got to use the DRY towel after my bath last night!".
Seems the kids share at least two towels for their various showers/baths, and the youngests always get the "not dry" towel, but not THAT night!
I just kind of plastered a big smile on my face and said "Wow! That's great!" and thought to myself "Please, God. Stop sending her children. Or at least send more towels".
well, on DU i was linked to a story of the most fecund woman in history. 1700's, so nobirth control. and in russia or near where sex might keep you warm. had 67 fuckin kids. but she had more ttwins, triplets, quads(back then? wow). and MOST SURVIVED. she must have been an early anjolie. or sophia loren. and started early. ow. my crotch hurts just thinking about it.
I don't have children, so I don't know the answer, but, um, does Mrs. Duggar not ever breast-feed her babies? Because doesn't breast-feeding have a tendency to delay the resumption of ovulation (even though it's not exactly a reliable method of birth control)? I guess I should do the research myself, instead of pulling a Jonah. But damn, it'd be weird if this family were so hell-bent on being more-fruitful-than-thou that Mom would pass on nursing.*
Okay, I should be more helpful. Here are some names that might also get them promotional money: Jeep, Jordache, Jcrew, Jimmychoo, Jello, Jiffypop.
*Or maybe she's tried and can't. See? I rushed to judgment. I am judgmental. Ooh! That starts with a "J"!
Except for the fact that the girls don't get to wear pants and seem to wear Little House on the Prairie dresses instead, I like the Duggars. They seem happy and healthy enough. (I do worry about Mrs. Duggar's uterus and bladder though.) I mean, watch the Duggars' program, watch Celebrity Rehab, watch Flavor Flav's Flavor of Love, and watch Keeping Up With the Kardashians. Which group of people would you want to spend a weekend with? Plus, Mrs. D. makes that great Tater-Tot Casserole.
I grew up in a German catholic town where most families (of the upstanding mass going type) averaged around 8 or 9 kids. Now that I've lived among the poor in northern new england, I have found that prior to the sixties, large families among all the uneducated were the norm as well -- ranging from 10 to 13.
But none of them have stories of love and light or fun and sharing. Resources are scarce, time with parents is a battle and the kids tend to get labeled very easily early in life, to wear that with their families onward. The need for strict order and conformity in order to survive everyday causes many of them to resent authority or overly defer to it later in life. Also, labeling of roles/personalities I think falls within that -- there just isn't time to give everyone the attention they need to nurture further than what is required of the leadership in the family.
I've known many who got stuck as the rebel, the shy one, the baby, the whiner, the family slave, the whipping boy/girl, whatever and they spend the rest of their lives living away from or under that yoke.
This family is like that times 150.
My thought was that this woman is going to be forced to breed until she dies in child birth or starts popping out down's syndrome children, or maybe both.
It is arrogance and dysfunction on a grotesque level.
And absolutely, shame on Discovery Channel for enabling this bullshit in order to make a quick buck.
Oh and one more thing, whats the difference between a welfare mother with 2 kids (average for welfare mothers) being a scum for "living off the state and breeding" and this family that has obviously made a living off of breeding and making their children into sideshow freaks.
Good lord - was she making sammiches for Jeebus agin'???? Don't they have television in their well-appointed home?!?!
Elspeth
Posted by: Elspeth R | May 09, 2008 at 11:17 AM
What a dick, no really WHAT A DICK!
Posted by: Capt. Bat Bitter Hussein Guano | May 09, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Has anyone alerted Angelina Jolie about this tribe?
Posted by: Timmy B | May 09, 2008 at 12:05 PM
go here and read "fun facts" about the duggars. for example, the "female head of the household" has been pregnanct 135 months of her life.
or, take a crack at naming the 18th.
http://health.discovery.com/convergence/duggars/duggarfamily.html
we are doomed as a nation.
Posted by: midgetsal | May 09, 2008 at 12:47 PM
if only liberals were this fecund tho.
Posted by: pansypoo | May 09, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Alert the gingham factory, another round of bad fabric will be needed for upcoming family portraits.
At some point the "vagina" is going to wear out... someone should start doing checks to make sure baby momma's not her sister.
Posted by: sukabi | May 09, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Oh for FUCK'S SAKE! What is with these people? Doesn't this stupid, STUPID woman know what she is doing to her future health by having so many babies? Even breeding animals are retired before popping out 18.
The worst part of that article? The part where they talked about the boys swapping their traditional chores with the girls' traditional chores. Again. FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
Posted by: mothra | May 09, 2008 at 01:05 PM
Geez WT, in order to capture the whole clan in your updated poster you'll have to get a roof shot of them standing in the Dependable Renegade parking lot!
Posted by: queek | May 09, 2008 at 01:21 PM
At some point won't her uterus just give up and fall out? Just saying.
Posted by: Joy | May 09, 2008 at 01:42 PM
I knew a family of 18. None of the 18 had large families. Most of them had 2 or 3 kids only 1 had 4 kids. When all the children completed HS the mother gave the house to the kids and moved into a 1 bedroom apt.
None of the 18 children had more than 4 children....this big family thing just did not carryover.
Posted by: jerri | May 09, 2008 at 02:34 PM
I knew a fella had 24 kids (two wives). The first had 19, and yup, her uterus plumb old fell out after the 19th. Ah b'leev it wuz hangin' down around her knees from all that unwarranted exercise. He married the second wife because, don'tchaknow, it's just too much to expect a MAY-UN to deal with his football team of sprog.
He fathered five on the second and then she developed really bad asthma and he was never allowed near her bed again (smart wench). Regrettably, one of his kids had nine of her own before her old man popped off from the stress of trying to figure out if he could keep them all fed and clothed. The other 23 opted for between 0 and four sprog each, mostly in the 0 or 1 column, actually.
Someone (a journalist? Some professional writer-wallah) wrote an excellent book, or maybe it was just a long article, about the joys of being one of a football team's worth of sprog. It was enough to make one feel like ripping out one's reproductive bits and tying them off with rusty barbed wire.
Posted by: thepoliticalcat | May 09, 2008 at 03:02 PM
I hate the fact that these yahoos are on Yahoo. Procreation as grist for the celebrity mill is disgusting. Shame on the Discovery folks for propagating this appalling spectacle.
Posted by: shpx.ohfu | May 09, 2008 at 03:24 PM
Why are those poor girls forced to mimic their mother's hideous-ass hairdo? Someone should tell them there's a reason why no one else in the world does their hair that way.
Posted by: Mr. Blackwell | May 09, 2008 at 03:49 PM
And for some stupid reason, all the kids names begin with 'J'. (Maybe for Jesus?)
Posted by: southern quebec | May 09, 2008 at 04:15 PM
No. It's for Joseph Smith.
Posted by: wa ching | May 09, 2008 at 04:58 PM
Mrs. Duggar is rumored to have admitted that once the callouses built up, numbers 12-17 have been a breeze!
Mr. Duggar seems to have no complaints!
Oy.
That poster is priceless for its mileage, Watertiger.
--mf
Posted by: Monkeyfister | May 09, 2008 at 05:38 PM
I just think it's repulsive. Why keep having them? And, sorry, no: "because we can!" is NOT a valid answer. Gluttony, sheer gluttony. I hope all the kids turn away from that 'faith' and do better and create small, manageable families IF they even want one! And why they are on Discovery is a mystery to me...there's NOTHING left to be discovered on her body...except a brain, which is obviously in hiding for its safety (and so the kids don't NOM on it!)
Elspeth
Posted by: Elspeth Ravenwind | May 09, 2008 at 05:48 PM
I grew up in a family of 10 kids. Among the first 5 (who helped raise the younger) - 3 kids among us. Among the last 5 - 2 apiece for a total of 10.
Posted by: sister of ye | May 09, 2008 at 05:58 PM
I feel bad for the at least one (more like two) gay kids in that household. (You figure conservative estimates are one in ten in America.) Bad enough to have fundi's for parents and grandparents (I do so I totally understand) but to have that many brainwashed brothers and sisters. Shiiiiit
and
I think they should do their Christian duty and give their kids to couples who have tried for years to conceive a child who for whatever fucked up reason don’t qualify for adoption.
Lastly, the hell people have to go through to adopt children who are already here and these dipshits can just pop them out one after the other.
Posted by: Frogspond | May 09, 2008 at 06:19 PM
AMEN Elspeth!!
Posted by: Frogspond | May 09, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Don't you know, there using God for birth control...
The worst thing is, they're relying on handouts. They're now some kind of right wing celebrities for having so many kids. I saw them on the Today show this AM and they were (of course) getting all kinds of gifts.
I'd like to see some kind of long term followup on the kids. What can it be like to have so little time with your parents? It's like they're born into fundie boot camp. Heck, I think there's enough of them to be considered a cult.
The all have names beginning with "J", each gender used to all have the same outfits, same scary hairdo's. I've heard of women who really enjoy the feeling of being pregnant. It's either that or she's been lobotomized by her "faith".
Posted by: Court Jester | May 09, 2008 at 08:30 PM
I taught Kindergarten at a Catholic school for about 5 years. 2 of my students (from separate years) were brothers from the "Big Family" of the parish. (Mom was of the mind that if the Lord kept giving kids to her, she was gonna keep poppin em out).
Anyway, they were good kids. Very nice, respectable and dependable. Hard workers, all of them.
One month, I gave one of the brothers (John or James, I forget what year it was) the "Good Citizenship" of the month award.
The next day, he came to me, very excited about the special treat he got at home for his award:
"I got to use the DRY towel after my bath last night!".
Seems the kids share at least two towels for their various showers/baths, and the youngests always get the "not dry" towel, but not THAT night!
I just kind of plastered a big smile on my face and said "Wow! That's great!" and thought to myself "Please, God. Stop sending her children. Or at least send more towels".
Posted by: Maryc | May 09, 2008 at 09:11 PM
What the FUCK?? Are you serious???
Fuck. I mean, that's what they do, but still, fuck. What fucking fuckers.
Um, can I say that?
Posted by: Heywood Jablome | May 09, 2008 at 09:26 PM
Here is what's creepy - these people are on a total ego trip - all those kids are 'mini-me's. No effort to help them become individuals.
Posted by: Kathryn in MA | May 09, 2008 at 10:01 PM
well, on DU i was linked to a story of the most fecund woman in history. 1700's, so nobirth control. and in russia or near where sex might keep you warm. had 67 fuckin kids. but she had more ttwins, triplets, quads(back then? wow). and MOST SURVIVED. she must have been an early anjolie. or sophia loren. and started early. ow. my crotch hurts just thinking about it.
Posted by: pansypoo | May 09, 2008 at 11:13 PM
I don't have children, so I don't know the answer, but, um, does Mrs. Duggar not ever breast-feed her babies? Because doesn't breast-feeding have a tendency to delay the resumption of ovulation (even though it's not exactly a reliable method of birth control)? I guess I should do the research myself, instead of pulling a Jonah. But damn, it'd be weird if this family were so hell-bent on being more-fruitful-than-thou that Mom would pass on nursing.*
Okay, I should be more helpful. Here are some names that might also get them promotional money: Jeep, Jordache, Jcrew, Jimmychoo, Jello, Jiffypop.
*Or maybe she's tried and can't. See? I rushed to judgment. I am judgmental. Ooh! That starts with a "J"!
Posted by: larkspur | May 10, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Except for the fact that the girls don't get to wear pants and seem to wear Little House on the Prairie dresses instead, I like the Duggars. They seem happy and healthy enough. (I do worry about Mrs. Duggar's uterus and bladder though.) I mean, watch the Duggars' program, watch Celebrity Rehab, watch Flavor Flav's Flavor of Love, and watch Keeping Up With the Kardashians. Which group of people would you want to spend a weekend with? Plus, Mrs. D. makes that great Tater-Tot Casserole.
Posted by: Grace Nearing | May 10, 2008 at 02:25 AM
i love cigars,but i take them out of my mouth once in a while-groucho marx
Posted by: kingweasil | May 10, 2008 at 04:54 AM
50 years ago, the Duggars would have been called "Catholic".
Now they are f**king nuts Fundies.
See how evolved we have become?
Posted by: leslie_fallen catholic | May 10, 2008 at 09:43 AM
that woman's uterus is an easy bake oven (tm)... just sayin'...
Posted by: David Greer | May 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM
the pope soooo wishes they were on his side. SEE, it's fine ladies.
Posted by: pansypoo | May 10, 2008 at 06:03 PM
I grew up in a German catholic town where most families (of the upstanding mass going type) averaged around 8 or 9 kids. Now that I've lived among the poor in northern new england, I have found that prior to the sixties, large families among all the uneducated were the norm as well -- ranging from 10 to 13.
But none of them have stories of love and light or fun and sharing. Resources are scarce, time with parents is a battle and the kids tend to get labeled very easily early in life, to wear that with their families onward. The need for strict order and conformity in order to survive everyday causes many of them to resent authority or overly defer to it later in life. Also, labeling of roles/personalities I think falls within that -- there just isn't time to give everyone the attention they need to nurture further than what is required of the leadership in the family.
I've known many who got stuck as the rebel, the shy one, the baby, the whiner, the family slave, the whipping boy/girl, whatever and they spend the rest of their lives living away from or under that yoke.
This family is like that times 150.
My thought was that this woman is going to be forced to breed until she dies in child birth or starts popping out down's syndrome children, or maybe both.
It is arrogance and dysfunction on a grotesque level.
And absolutely, shame on Discovery Channel for enabling this bullshit in order to make a quick buck.
Oh and one more thing, whats the difference between a welfare mother with 2 kids (average for welfare mothers) being a scum for "living off the state and breeding" and this family that has obviously made a living off of breeding and making their children into sideshow freaks.
Posted by: kate | May 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM
what selfish jerks these people are......
Posted by: distributorcap | May 11, 2008 at 07:27 AM
as my mother used to say, "don't they ever do it for fun?"
seriously, though, they look just like an expanded version of little ricky santorum's family at his capitulation speech in november 'o6.
Posted by: mellowjohn | May 14, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Time to wheel out a new poster - there are only fourteen kids in that one.
Posted by: KPrice92 | May 15, 2008 at 10:27 AM